Jeep Wrangler Rubicon 392 Hemi headed to production!

In my searching I have learned that Dec 23, 2022 is the last day you can order one of these.

Get er done.

Bart said:

Get er done.

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$88k.....

mbryson said:

In my searching I have learned that Dec 23, 2022 is the last day you can order one of these.

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I’m sure the EV will be better in every way

TRD270 said:

I’m sure the EV will be better in every way

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I think that’s still wishful thinking. Maybe in another 50 years when the tech and infrastructure allows for charging in a couple minutes and a driving range comparable of gas.

Don’t forget, 2 weeks ago Cali announced the ban on gas engines and then last week they started restricting when EVs could be charged. 😂

UNSTUCK said:

I think that’s still wishful thinking. Maybe in another 50 years when the tech and infrastructure allows for charging in a couple minutes and a driving range comparable of gas.

Don’t forget, 2 weeks ago Cali announced the ban on gas engines and then last week they started restricting when EVs could be charged. 😂

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Sorry guess my sarcasm didn’t come across 😬

TRD270 said:

Sorry guess my sarcasm didn’t come across 😬

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Ahh, I see it now that you mention it.

mbryson said:

In my searching I have learned that Dec 23, 2022 is the last day you can order one of these.

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For this model year? I was looking last year and orders were shut down end of year to retool for the new model year (or so they told me). My dealer said the 392 was not going away as far as they knew but to order soon if I wanted this year's model.

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I've been looking at this for a couple of years now and never quite seem to synch up finances and ordering window. I've been waiting for the Xtreme Recon version but it comes and goes (mostly goes). Any opinion on how desirable the 35" tires (with attendant 4.56 gears, extra lift, and goodies to support the larger/heavier tires) are in the real world? My earlier 4Runner did OK with 31" but could've used 33". My last couple of Grand Cherokees running tires in the 30" range were a bit low for some of the trails. Friends I ran with usually had 31"~33" tires and we could handle most trails. I am not the most extreme by any means (so probably on the wrong forum), but it is Colorado (rocky), so clearance is helpful.

Curious, thanks - Don

DonH63 said:

For this model year? I was looking last year and orders were shut down end of year to retool for the new model year (or so they told me). My dealer said the 392 was not going away as far as they knew but to order soon if I wanted this year's model.

For all:

I've been looking at this for a couple of years now and never quite seem to synch up finances and ordering window. I've been waiting for the Xtreme Recon version but it comes and goes (mostly goes). Any opinion on how desirable the 35" tires (with attendant 4.56 gears, extra lift, and goodies to support the larger/heavier tires) are in the real world? My earlier 4Runner did OK with 31" but could've used 33". My last couple of Grand Cherokees running tires in the 30" range were a bit low for some of the trails. Friends I ran with usually had 31"~33" tires and we could handle most trails. I am not the most extreme by any means (so probably on the wrong forum), but it is Colorado (rocky), so clearance is helpful.

Curious, thanks - Don

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I don't work for Jeep or anything. I was just told that info when I was considering that vs a diesel or gas Gladiator. I'm cheap enough the Gladiator is INSANELY priced. They are $20k under a 392. I really like the Gladiator and the diesel makes me think I'd REALLY like a Gladiator or Wrangler with a 5.7L. The 392 would just be that much better. They told me that Dec 17 or something was the last date you could order a 392. That was two months ago. Things could have changed?

I ended up with a diesel and like it a lot. Good power, good mpg even with 37" tires and not regearing. I'm nervous about the fuel pump and other semi-common 3.0 diesel issues. The 3.6 isn't without issues and neither are the V8 engines

mbryson said:

I don't work for Jeep or anything. I was just told that info when I was considering that vs a diesel or gas Gladiator. I'm cheap enough the Gladiator is INSANELY priced. They are $20k under a 392. I really like the Gladiator and the diesel makes me think I'd REALLY like a Gladiator or Wrangler with a 5.7L. The 392 would just be that much better. They told me that Dec 17 or something was the last date you could order a 392. That was two months ago. Things could have changed?

I ended up with a diesel and like it a lot. Good power, good mpg even with 37" tires and not regearing. I'm nervous about the fuel pump and other semi-common 3.0 diesel issues. The 3.6 isn't without issues and neither are the V8 engines

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Got it, thank you. A Gladiator is appealing but for me and fam the Unlimited is a bit better choice. I 100% agree the 5.7L would have been a great choice. I am not sure why they chose the 6.4L instead, or don't offer the 5.7L as a cheaper alternative. The diesel would be a good choice but sometimes fuel is hard to find (and quite a bit over gas, though the mileage probably makes up for it). The "e" versions I don't really trust as I suspect the battery wouldn't last all that long on the trail and then the I4 is sort of wimpy. Could be wrong, don't know anybody who's really used one off road, but don't want to be the one to find out at 12,000 feet in the middle of nowhere.

The 392 is going over MSRP around here, if you can even find one. The only way to get one locally is to order; a dealer 100 miles away had two and they sold both in two days. They told me 5 1/2 to 6 1/2 months to deliver, so I suspect the order window is closing soon, though they did not know it (they are checking now). For the price, I've been holding out for the Xtreme package, but it is frustratingly hard to get. Over the past year or two it has been available, then not, several times -- and never available when I was ready to pull the trigger, natch. I'm old enough that my driveway building days are mostly over and the cost of new tires and wheels, all the doo-dads to mount the spare and such, suspension lift, and gears (if needed) would be more than the difference in price, plus I'd get a factory warranty. I'm thinking the 392 is a small production number, and the Xtreme a fraction of that, so they order parts and build a batch then switch the line back to the other Wranglers. That would explain the hit and miss ability to order the package.

The good news is they are popular enough that the deposit to order is pretty small and refundable if you decide not to take it.

DonH63 said:

Got it, thank you. A Gladiator is appealing but for me and fam the Unlimited is a bit better choice. I 100% agree the 5.7L would have been a great choice. I am not sure why they chose the 6.4L instead, or don't offer the 5.7L as a cheaper alternative. The diesel would be a good choice but sometimes fuel is hard to find (and quite a bit over gas, though the mileage probably makes up for it). The "e" versions I don't really trust as I suspect the battery wouldn't last all that long on the trail and then the I4 is sort of wimpy. Could be wrong, don't know anybody who's really used one off road, but don't want to be the one to find out at 12,000 feet in the middle of nowhere.

The 392 is going over MSRP around here, if you can even find one. The only way to get one locally is to order; a dealer 100 miles away had two and they sold both in two days. They told me 5 1/2 to 6 1/2 months to deliver, so I suspect the order window is closing soon, though they did not know it (they are checking now). For the price, I've been holding out for the Xtreme package, but it is frustratingly hard to get. Over the past year or two it has been available, then not, several times -- and never available when I was ready to pull the trigger, natch. I'm old enough that my driveway building days are mostly over and the cost of new tires and wheels, all the doo-dads to mount the spare and such, suspension lift, and gears (if needed) would be more than the difference in price, plus I'd get a factory warranty. I'm thinking the 392 is a small production number, and the Xtreme a fraction of that, so they order parts and build a batch then switch the line back to the other Wranglers. That would explain the hit and miss ability to order the package.

The good news is they are popular enough that the deposit to order is pretty small and refundable if you decide not to take it.

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I think I still have a spec'd sarge green 392 with the extreme recon in my Jeep.com cache? (probably not but I've looked it up enough, I believe what I just typed ) It was $84-85k how I spec'd it. Definitely a "low end" build for a 392. Bonuses to me on ordering the extreme recon were exactly what you mention. I drive it off the lot with 35" tires, a V8 swap, 4.56 gears and lockers. Someone could probably build a Sport they bought (I have built a JKU that way) with ARBs, gears and lift and be $50-60k depending on how you're doing things?


Just "built" a 392 and the "Extreme Recon" is available. Price is up a bit now. $89k for dual tops, some floor mats and headliner adds.

mbryson said:

I think I still have a spec'd sarge green 392 with the extreme recon in my Jeep.com cache? (probably not but I've looked it up enough, I believe what I just typed ) It was $84-85k how I spec'd it. Definitely a "low end" build for a 392. Bonuses to me on ordering the extreme recon were exactly what you mention. I drive it off the lot with 35" tires, a V8 swap, 4.56 gears and lockers. Someone could probably build a Sport they bought (I have built a JKU that way) with ARBs, gears and lift and be $50-60k depending on how you're doing things?


Just "built" a 392 and the "Extreme Recon" is available. Price is up a bit now. $89k for dual tops, some floor mats and headliner adds.

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The website lets you build it, but you cannot actually order it. Dealer says unavailable and they won't let them even place an order so I can stand in line. This has been an on-going issue with their website. I have sent a couple of notes to the website and they just say to work with my local dealer. I told them they should remove the option if it is unobtanium but they didn't respond to that. The local dealer is good, worked with them many years, but they just can't get the things, at least with the Xtreme package. I could order it with everything else now.

The main appeal is the V8. The Xtreme package would run $7.5k~$10k to have installed here, or so I've been told by a few folk, and of course you lose the warranty. I have been told and read a couple of places that taking a more basic model and building it up would run $100k~$120k if you can get the engine (if I went that route, I'd probably back down to the 5.7L). Not sure I believe it would be that high, but still holding out hope I can order what I want instead.

I did similar things in the past, bought a cheaper rig and built it up myself (except for the gears and lockers, let an expert do that, and had the tires mounted on the wheels by a local tire shop). Never an engine swap, though, didn't trust myself even back then to not make an expensive mistake. I have the usual horror stories of things gone wrong, including adding headers and a fancy exhaust right before a hunting trip, only to find out the crossover pipe was almost impossible to remove without pulling the engine first. I was on my back in the driveway cutting it off at midnight while it was spitting snow, and managed to get it in the garage around 3 am before a 6 am departure. Do NOT want to do that again!

Prices are insane, but I am hoping to retire soon and have time to wheel again, and the 392 Xtreme would be perfect!

Back to work, blah...

My dealer got back to me after hearing from their rep. No word on when or even if the Xtreme Recon package will be available again... What is Jeep management thinking?

I know where there are two white Rubicon 392s for sale right not. Haacke Motorsports in Layton. Big money though.
https://www.haackemotors.com/vdp/19256801/Used-2023-Jeep-Wrangler-UNLIMITED-RUBICON-392-for-sale-in-Layton-UT-84041
https://www.haackemotors.com/vdp/19...MITED-RUBICON-392-for-sale-in-Layton-UT-84041

rholbrook said:

I know where there are two white Rubicon 392s for sale right not. Haacke Motorsports in Layton. Big money though.
https://www.haackemotors.com/vdp/19256801/Used-2023-Jeep-Wrangler-UNLIMITED-RUBICON-392-for-sale-in-Layton-UT-84041
https://www.haackemotors.com/vdp/19...MITED-RUBICON-392-for-sale-in-Layton-UT-84041

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Yeah, a bit of gouging going on... One link didn't work, may be already sold, and the second is about $20k over MSRP. There were three, two black and one white, listed closer to me a couple of days ago but I think they are all gone now. Asking $5k to $10k over MSRP and they still get sold in a day! I can order one at MSRP but cannot get the Xtreme Recon package. Looking at a Bronco and pondering. You can get the 35" or even 37" tires, no V8 but better ride, but again a long wait and the local dealer is asking for a huge markup (like $20k or more) though may be less if I ordered one. Maybe I'll wait another (model) year though at some point they'll drop the V8 entirely with my luck.

I can't help but think you could get into a built to the hilt used v8 wrangler for half of that...and you can pay for a lot of out-of-warranty maintenance for 30-50k you saved. I see wickedly built low mile 4door wrangler's all the time in the 40-60k range that would hold up to a lot more abuse than the Xtreme Recon, and you wouldn't have to take off all the goofy stickers jeep would slap on that thing.

Also, to me it sounds like you're coming from some pretty mild platforms. Do you "need" a 80k v8 wrangler on 35's? Is there somewhere that vehicle takes you that a regular motor wrangler on 35's can't? It's not like those d44's in that rig are super over built or anything, especially with a v8 behind it, and if you think you're going to be wheeling hard enough to need the v8 power, then I'd probably say that you're just going to be bummed about it. Warranty's are great until you're stuck with a broken u joint in the middle of nowhere.

The bronco's would likely get you all of the same places you seem to be interested in going, but probably have their own issues (steering upgrades probably being the first thing to address).

V8's are cool, don't get me wrong, but if it were me I'd pick up a diesel rubicon and toss some 35-37's on it, and go all the places. What does AEV get for their outfitted rigs that are under warranty? If I was dead set on a more built v8 powered one, I'd wait for one to pop up used from Tera or something and just squirrel away some of that money to spend on maintenance that isn't covered under the warranty.

I drove a 392 rubicon before getting my bronco. It was awesome for sure. But at double the price of my Sasquatch v6 bronco, and not really quicker, I couldn’t imagine it. Instead, I have a basic bronco with all the stuff I need for off road exploring - 35’s, winch, steel bumper, sliders, lockers - for just over $45k new. I was also able to pick up a lightly(?) used built rubicon on 37’s for anything more serious I might want to do, and I’m still money ahead. I drove the bronco 90 mph down to st George this morning in ways my old gladiator could only dream about. The 392 still drives like a Jeep, even with all the power.

For that money, I just think there are so many options out there. That said, if it’s not about the money, you should 100% buy one, they are freaking awesome.

Sand and mud is why V8. For rock crawling for sure diesel.

Here's a good example. 9 times out of 10 I'm laughing at guys who have to spend $1500 for a top end on their 4 stroke while my 52hp 300cc two stroke does everything better: chains and sprockets last longer, tires go 4+ races, $150 to do a piston.

Last Saturday we had a sand race around little Sahara. Racing in the sand and I made that 2 stroke sing Hallelujah in the corners and heaven smiled it's warmth on my face
for the wonderful sound of premixed happiness... All the politicians were fired and I finished my chore list. All was right in the world... And then some fat guy goes past me, in the straights on a deep sand hill, on a 450, sitting down, and I wished for 60hp, a duck fart noise exhaust and an expensive maintenance schedule.

Now that 392 sounds amazing and goes like stink too. If I could swing it, I might.

Hmm...Not sure what other options you are looking for, but I see some on KSL. They have them listed at MSRP...but no actual pics, so they are on Order.

Gravy said:

Sand and mud is why V8. For rock crawling for sure diesel.

Here's a good example. 9 times out of 10 I'm laughing at guys who have to spend $1500 for a top end on their 4 stroke while my 52hp 300cc two stroke does everything better: chains and sprockets last longer, tires go 4+ races, $150 to do a piston.

Last Saturday we had a sand race around little Sahara. Racing in the sand and I made that 2 stroke sing Hallelujah in the corners and heaven smiled it's warmth on my face
for the wonderful sound of premixed happiness... All the politicians were fired and I finished my chore list. All was right in the world... And then some fat guy goes past me, in the straights on a deep sand hill, on a 450, sitting down, and I wished for 60hp, a duck fart noise exhaust and an expensive maintenance schedule.

Now that 392 sounds amazing and goes like stink too. If I could swing it, I might.

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Define $1500 top end? While a 4 stroke costs a little more it is not 10x more. Last top end I did on Jacks practice bike was about $300 with a cam chain. Now if we have a catastrophic failure like the motor I posted pictures of the. We are probably talking 3 -4 times the cost. I think the total to rebuild Jacks team mates bike is going to be about 3500 when I rough added up the parts where a new 300 cylinder crank(OEM) and piston is about 1500.