Any Mtn Bikers on RME?

Corban_White

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Location
Lehi, UT
It's a ~26 mile shuttled ride that starts at the top of guardsman pass and ends at the bottom of millcreek canyon. Not a bad ride, pretty crowded. Also, I heard that guardsman was closed for a paving project. Better check the dates.

Edit: looks like it's just closed today and tomorrow.
 

Kevin B.

OLAF
Location
Stinkwater
You don’t want me there—I will only slow you guys down. A lot.

On an unrelated note, what/where is Wasatch Crest?

Wasatch Crest is a trail that runs from the top of Guardsmans Pass, with multiple options to drop down to Park City or Salt Lake City as you work your way north. We've always come back to the Salt Lake side via Mill Creek Canyon, because the shuttle picks you up right there on Wasatch Blvd. There's also shuttle options from the Park City side, or if you're feeling froggy you can park at PCMR and ride up. The Mill Creek option is about 22-26 miles depending on which fork you take, mostly super-fun swoopy mellow downhill. I'd call it a hard green or easy blue trail, there are tech sections (mostly the Spine) that we like to stop and session but nothing you can't walk or bypass. It takes me 4-4.5 hours, because I'm fat and slow and end up walking most of the two steep climbs.

You absolutely should come. You'd love it. You would not slow the group down near as much as you think you would, and even if you did, who cares? It ain't a race and there's no time limit.
 

Kevin B.

OLAF
Location
Stinkwater
Kevin maybe has selective memory... Puke Hill kinda sucks but you can walk if you want. (Me walking)

Not at all. Puke Hill is indelibly seared in my forebrain. It's an asskicker for sure, I don't even like walking it. But it's worth it.

@dutchman cleaned it the last time we went. I'm filling his tires with water this time.
 

nnnnnate

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Location
WVC, UT
That sounds pretty fun. I think my family did that back in the day and I stayed at my grandpas house in sugarhouse because i was broken.
 

rholbrook

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Location
Kaysville, Ut
Just throwing this out there. I have a 2018 Haibike 10.0 Full Seven LT SDURO eBike that I bought earlier in the Rona Virus era that I want to sell. I bought it from the original owner and it had 102 miles on it. I now have 352 miles on it. It is an XL frame and has some descent components on it.

I like the bike, I like it a lot actually. The problem is I am 5'10" and this is an XL frame. If it was a large frame I would keep it. I thought I would be okay with a larger frame and I thought I was until I rode by friends Large frame. I just want to get my money out of it so I can go find me something in a large frame. If anyone is interested, you can message me and come take it for a spin. Battery life on these things is great. I took it up Mueller Park to Elephant rock on Sunday and spent most of the time in the highest assist level and it dropped one bar on the battery meter. I think there are 8 bars on it.

New this bike retails for $5,500.

I would like to get $3,500 for it which I believe it is worth all day long. It does have another set of taller handle bars and some nice peddles. The original bars will come with it. It also has what is left of a 3 year warranty from Mad Dog Cycle in Orem. Its the Bike Love Ultimate Bike Coverage plan and its labeled as the BETTER PLAN. They have a Good Better and Best plan.

I will post some pictures of it as soon as I get them off of my phone.

MotorYamaha PW-X (15mph), 500 watts, 80nm
BatteryYamaha Lithium Ion, 500 Wh
DisplayYamaha LCD-X Display
BrakesMagura MT5 hydraulic disc brakes
DrivetrainShimano Deore XT M786 Shadow Plus, 20-speed
ForkRockShox Lyrik RC Lockout 150mm

Shock RockShox Deluxe RT, air
Shifting Rear Derailleur Shimano Deore XT M786 Shadow Plus, 20-speed
Front Derailleur Shimano SLX M7000

Dropper Post XLC AllMtn, Remote, telescope, 31.6mm
Wheels DT Swiss H1900 27.5"4157A1E6-E7C7-454D-82A0-AA1AC1DD16DB.jpeg
 

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rholbrook

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Location
Kaysville, Ut
Here is another one I bought this week I’m trying to find one more. Slim pickings at the bike shops up north here. I am sure it’s the same way south in Salt Lake or Utah counties
 

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jsudar

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Location
Cedar Hills
Becaues this thread has been dead too long... Because regular high school has been kinda lame this year, I've had make up for it with extra metal shop classes. Those conversations with your teenager about where bikes come from are not nearly as awkward as the ones about where babies come from.
This is my 15 year old's "aggressive" cross country 29er frame. 67° head angle and 140mm travel Reba. He's been riding it in the raw, but we'll probably tear it back down this week for some Fire Orange powder coat. He did the brazing on the cable guides and some of the minor joints. I have spent too much money on orthodontics to let a newbie braze the main joints, so I brazed them up.

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RockChucker

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Location
Highland
Cool! Why brazed joints instead of welded? Sorry for my ignorance....building a bike frame is not something I've ever looked into or considered doing.
 

jsudar

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Location
Cedar Hills
Several reasons, none of them very scientific:
1. Oxy/Acetylene torch setups are cheaper than TIG welders. I have two and I'm only in $500
2. I don't have a TIG at home yet, and dragging all my frame building stuff to the shop at the work place is a PITA
3. I'm okay at TIG welding, but brazing is a much more forgiving process. It's harder to screw up and it's kind of fun.
4. It's nostalgic and unique. They've been brazing frames for over a hundred years, but it's kind of a lost art form nowadays. You will not meet anyone else on the trails riding a fillet brazed steel frame unless they had it custom built by one of a handful of frame builders. You may see a lugged brazed bike from the 80's though. My old 1989 Trek 990 was lugged.
5. It looks cool. If we do a good job filing the fillets, once it's painted, you shouldn't be able to tell where one tube ends and the next begins. Kind of a carbon fiber look, but steel.

TIG welding makes a lighter joint, it's a little bit quicker to do and it's arguably stronger, but oh well...
 

sixstringsteve

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Location
UT
Super cool design. I love those floating seatstays. Nice work C!

Question: I see a lot of frames with seat tubes that have two tubes welded together to lengthen it. Any idea why do they do that instead of just starting with a seat tube that's long enough? I'll see if I can get a pic. Usually it's about 4" below the seat collar.
 

RockChucker

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Location
Highland
That's cool. I did notice the filleted joints and once it's painted you'd almost think it is a fancy carbon fiber frame. Have you ever built a full suspension bike? Cool stuff.
 

jsudar

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Location
Cedar Hills
I have a Santa Cruz 5010c frame that got squished and I glued it back together for measuring purposes. I’m going to use the links and suspension geo and build my own front and rear triangles. I think there’s a pic in this thread four or five pages back of the glued up frame. That will be my first suspension bike. I just started on my gravel bike frame, so I need to finish that first.
 

jsudar

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Location
Cedar Hills
Steve— you can’t see it in any of the above pictures very well, but that frame has exactly what you are talking about. It’s an insert that’s sized to adapt to the seat post. Most seat tubes are 1 3/8” x .035” wall tubing which is nice and light, but the i.d. is too small to hold a seat post. It’s usually a socket fit, so you sweat in (or fusion weld) a heavy wall piece of tube at the top to clamp the post. Super common on steel and Ti frames.
My green bike is different as it actually has a specially drawn piece of tube that’s super heavy for the top five inches and the tapers down to a thinner wall.A3547052-3CA8-448C-8755-618417F3C657.jpeg
 
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Gravy

Ant Anstead of Dirtbikes
Ok. Thoughts on the e*thirteen trs+ 12speed conversion?


I've got 11 speed GX sram stuff and I can do it for $200.

I'm currently spinning out on flat ground and road descents are basically coasting after about 28mph.

I think the plusses are lower weight, and range 511% vs 420% I have now. Plus I keep my GX shifter and derailer so it's WAY cheaper than x1 or even gx eagle 12 speed.

Downsides: $200 for one gear.
 
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