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Mouse

Trying to wheel
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West Haven, UT
That article makes big claims that Dr. Stock "was largely false, contrary to the opinions of the medical establishment, and potentially dangerous" but fails to address what exactly was false. The closest that this article comes to addressing Dr. Stock's "opinions" is when it addressed his quote of the large percentage (75%) of breakout cases in Mass, where the MSN article quotes "96% of current infections in Indiana."

It attempts to also discredit his background and experience...didn't convince me

If the article would back up it's claims with some sort of evidence, not just the going narrative, it might have a chance to be more than garbage.
 

UT410

RME's Holistic Healer
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Holladay
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Houndoc

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Location
Grantsville
If COVID-19 is not that similar to the "common cold", how were the drug companies able to come up with a vaccine (3-4 to my knowledge) so fast? Maybe a year development at best?
We don't have a common cold vaccine! But I do think the fact that COVID-19 is part of a well known family of viruses, one that we have dealt with other outbreaks in recent years (SARS etc.,) certainly helped.

Vaccine development is a challenge- not so much on safety but for efficacy. Some viruses, such as HIV, decades of efforts have not produced a reliable vaccine. Again, COVID was one that fortunately an effective vaccine was able to be developed quickly.

I am not aware (not saying it hasn't happened) of any cases of an effective vaccine against a virus being kept off the market for safety reasons (allergic reactions to vaccines against bacteria are more common because of the increased protein in the cell wall components that are usually required for an effective bacterial vaccine.)

This is especially true now that live-virus vaccines are not as commonly used.
 

mbryson

.......a few dollars more
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We don't have a common cold vaccine! But I do think the fact that COVID-19 is part of a well known family of viruses, one that we have dealt with other outbreaks in recent years (SARS etc.,) certainly helped.

Vaccine development is a challenge- not so much on safety but for efficacy. Some viruses, such as HIV, decades of efforts have not produced a reliable vaccine. Again, COVID was one that fortunately an effective vaccine was able to be developed quickly.

I am not aware (not saying it hasn't happened) of any cases of an effective vaccine against a virus being kept off the market for safety reasons (allergic reactions to vaccines against bacteria are more common because of the increased protein in the cell wall components that are usually required for an effective bacterial vaccine.)

This is especially true now that live-virus vaccines are not as commonly used.


They've been trying to develop a common cold vaccine for our whole lifetimes. I'm SURE there is research that they could and would have leveraged.
 

xjtony

Well-Known Member
Location
Grantsville, Ut
We don't have a common cold vaccine! But I do think the fact that COVID-19 is part of a well known family of viruses, one that we have dealt with other outbreaks in recent years (SARS etc.,) certainly helped.
I read an article showing the process of trying to find alternate uses for medications (this article was not about vaccines). The process was quite interesting. Basically they compile a list of points to compare between the illness they are developing for vs other illnesses that they have treatments for. In this case they were comparing Covid 19 to other viruses that there are medications to treat. They used hundreds of data points and then looked closer at the medications that shared data points between the 2. AI and even just modern computing power should really help scientists in development of medications in the future.
 

UT410

RME's Holistic Healer
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Holladay

These findings show that cov-2 antibodies (from the vaccine) are ENHANCING infection.
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From Shawn Stevenson:

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Herzog

somewhat damaged
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Location
Kamas, UT

These findings show that cov-2 antibodies (from the vaccine) are ENHANCING infection.
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It’s ok, just trust the ones who are “smarter” than you. You know, in an ironically religious way. How dare you question the white coat clergy.
 

gijohn40

too poor to wheel... :(
Location
Layton, Utah
I haven't read all this post and pretty much dont think I will... but had to say that I have two different technicians that were vaccinated that caught covid19 last week. one in Cheyenne and on in Jackson... I am not sure which vaccine they got and it would be interesting to find out. It seems that covid is back and here to stay!
 

Stephen

Who Dares Wins
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East of Eden
Hilarious skit about COVID at the beginning of this:


Unless you're a fan of Red Letter Media movie reviews, only watch until 08:30.
 

xj_nate

Doctor, economist, polical expert, poser
Location
UT
Does anybody on here know someone that has been hospitalized or died from the government chip implant (vaccine)? Not a friend of a friend of a friend twice removed or anything nonsensical, please.

I ask because the talk of how bad the vaccine is kind of surprises me since I have had 2 extended family members actually die from COVID so I just wanted to poll the people.


Disclaimer: I still think people getting vaccinated (or not) is their choice.

Disclaimer 2: If your reason is you just don't want to get it or you don't trust the gubment etc, no comment needed because that's not the discussion I'm interested in :p
 

Houndoc

Registered User
Location
Grantsville
Does anybody on here know someone that has been hospitalized or died from the government chip implant (vaccine)? Not a friend of a friend of a friend twice removed or anything nonsensical, please.

I ask because the talk of how bad the vaccine is kind of surprises me since I have had 2 extended family members actually die from COVID so I just wanted to poll the people.


Disclaimer: I still think people getting vaccinated (or not) is their choice.

Disclaimer 2: If your reason is you just don't want to get it or you don't trust the gubment etc, no comment needed because that's not the discussion I'm interested in :p
An employees father spent one night in the hospital a day or two after his shot for dehydration. No long term negative impacts.
 

Herzog

somewhat damaged
Admin
Location
Kamas, UT
Does anybody on here know someone that has been hospitalized or died from the government chip implant (vaccine)? Not a friend of a friend of a friend twice removed or anything nonsensical, please.

I ask because the talk of how bad the vaccine is kind of surprises me since I have had 2 extended family members actually die from COVID so I just wanted to poll the people.


Disclaimer: I still think people getting vaccinated (or not) is their choice.

Disclaimer 2: If your reason is you just don't want to get it or you don't trust the gubment etc, no comment needed because that's not the discussion I'm interested in :p
My best friends grandfather died of a bloodclot stroke 1 week after injection. Related or not? I don't know for sure.
 
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