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Aloha’n MF
Location
SaSa Sandy
So I broke my rule and read some comments in the news, it shocks me how many people are in favor of this. Now then again it’s a small slice of the demographic but I’d say well over 90% of the comments I read favored this action. Amazed how freely people are willing to give up civil liberties.

I’m sure the ministry of information will be touting how great this is, and will be publicized as one of the dictators greatest moments.

I don’t care either way if you get vaccinated that’s your choice. It is not the governments business to put my livelihood in jeopardy with these tyrannical sanctions.

Companies that can’t afford a legal battle or absurd fines will end up complying. Then they’ll lose a portion of the workforce that quit, because if you haven’t been vaccinated at this point you probably don’t want to be. Now said business is going to go under anyway because ohh yeah they won’t be able to hire anyone to replace the lost employees.

Thinking through that I guess this all makes sense. It just forces the socialist agenda in a non direct way. Completely collapse our economy, put everyone on federal welfare, put the country in crippling debt, reduce military spending and we’ll all be speaking Chinese by 2030
 

glockman

I hate Jeeps
Location
Pleasant Grove
So when do employers have to mandate for things that kill more people than “The Rona”........ like obesity, heart disease, diabetes, suicide
They won't, they don't really care about your health. I've made this comment all over our company mandate asking when they will start mandating a "healthy, covid resistant BMI" and got no answer. I did however get several people who feel it would be reasonable for the company to require weight loss shots of they existed. SMH.
 

Herzog

somewhat damaged
Admin
Location
Kamas, UT
The people that already have it need to understand that this doesn't end with their current 2nd or 3rd dose. This will go on, indefinitely. You'll need to get the juice on their dictated schedule in order for you to keep getting your paycheck.

Also, the 75% thing is gaslighting. They don't have anywhere near that number.
 

Mouse

Trying to wheel
Supporting Member
Location
West Haven, UT
Why have there been no autopsies of those who dies from the vaccines? There is no transparency on data concerning the safety of these gene therapy shots. Any word on the Novavax shot?
 

UT410

RME's Holistic Healer
Supporting Member
Location
Holladay
Let's not forget... per the norm these days - the mandates are distracting us from Afganistan and the upcoming terrorist event or mass shooting (or whatever else) will distract us from the mandates and all of it is a distraction the stuff they really don't want us to know about... like the IRS stuff, the SCS stuff, the food shortage stuff and so on.
 

Herzog

somewhat damaged
Admin
Location
Kamas, UT
Let's not forget... per the norm these days - the mandates are distracting us from Afganistan and the upcoming terrorist event or mass shooting (or whatever else) will distract us from the mandates and all of it is a distraction the stuff they really don't want us to know about... like the IRS stuff, the SCS stuff, the food shortage stuff and so on.
Like the fake extremist protest in DC next week or whenever the fed posters stated?
 

xjtony

Well-Known Member
Location
Grantsville, Ut
I hesitate to pull this thread up again but wanted to throw out an update for anyone interested. I had to go to the ER last weekend with chest pain and after another episode of passing out. Officially the lining of my heart is swollen from the vaccine. Luckily I currently take the medication that would be prescribed for another issue, so it could have been worse. My biggest issue with the whole thing is that the doctor, after talking in depth about it and being treated with medication he refused to put the information into my paperwork specifically because he said he didn't want it to be reported as a reaction to the vaccine. Its very frustrating to not be able to rely on a medical professional to do the right thing. Every piece of information during this time should be looked at so we can have a clear view going forward. People like me are a small percentage of people who received the shot and had a serious reaction, but that info could be used in the future for screening or changes that could save lives.
 

Mouse

Trying to wheel
Supporting Member
Location
West Haven, UT
I read a couple of articles last week about the spike proteins produced by the vaccine and issues with heart and blood vessels based on a paper released by some british doctors. Hope you feel better soon.
 

Mouse

Trying to wheel
Supporting Member
Location
West Haven, UT
@Mouse its amazing how different the information from the UK is. I read one that indicated that natural antibodies are FAR superior to vaccine antibodies in dealing with delta.
I find myself reading more foreign articles, esp. regarding this topic. I also find it interesting that the Japanese gov't is moving away from the MRNA-based shots and are prescribing IVM and Hyroxycholoquine. They have also ordered 150M doses of Novavax. Hopefully the US approves (even EUA) Novavax
 

Herzog

somewhat damaged
Admin
Location
Kamas, UT
I hesitate to pull this thread up again but wanted to throw out an update for anyone interested. I had to go to the ER last weekend with chest pain and after another episode of passing out. Officially the lining of my heart is swollen from the vaccine. Luckily I currently take the medication that would be prescribed for another issue, so it could have been worse. My biggest issue with the whole thing is that the doctor, after talking in depth about it and being treated with medication he refused to put the information into my paperwork specifically because he said he didn't want it to be reported as a reaction to the vaccine. Its very frustrating to not be able to rely on a medical professional to do the right thing. Every piece of information during this time should be looked at so we can have a clear view going forward. People like me are a small percentage of people who received the shot and had a serious reaction, but that info could be used in the future for screening or changes that could save lives.
Man that pisses me off to no end, as I imagine it does you too. I'm really hoping you see some resolve and major improvements soon.
 
I hesitate to pull this thread up again but wanted to throw out an update for anyone interested. I had to go to the ER last weekend with chest pain and after another episode of passing out. Officially the lining of my heart is swollen from the vaccine. Luckily I currently take the medication that would be prescribed for another issue, so it could have been worse. My biggest issue with the whole thing is that the doctor, after talking in depth about it and being treated with medication he refused to put the information into my paperwork specifically because he said he didn't want it to be reported as a reaction to the vaccine. Its very frustrating to not be able to rely on a medical professional to do the right thing. Every piece of information during this time should be looked at so we can have a clear view going forward. People like me are a small percentage of people who received the shot and had a serious reaction, but that info could be used in the future for screening or changes that could save lives.
That is horrible! I wonder what recourse is available? There would be malpractice if what he was doing caused you injury, but I'm not sure if we have any rights against the establishment.
 

xjtony

Well-Known Member
Location
Grantsville, Ut
He even went so far as to try and tell me that the reaction I had within 24 hours of the shot had nothing to do with a reaction either and that my doctor was wrong. The only recourse I know of is to report it to VAERS. I reported both the new diagnosis and the doctor specifically for what I felt was trying to cover up a potentially serious side effect
 

anderson750

I'm working on it Rose
Location
Price, Utah
Refusing to report could possibly be an issue with the state medical board. Whoever this doctor is seems to be going against the hypocratic oath that they take when becoming doctors. By not reporting what seems to by an obvious link to the vaccine, he is putting other people at risk. Your reaction is specific to you and how your body responded, but there is information there that could be valuable to those who are trying to put pieces of a puzzle together.
 

jeeper

Currently without Jeep
Location
So Jo, Ut
I was in the home of a nurse at Primary Childrens this week. I asked if the kids being sick was as bad as the news is making it sound. He said there really aren't many coming in. There are being hit hard by RSV in children right now.

However, he did say that of the children who have had covid, some return with MAJOR symptoms.. including heart attack type issues :oops:
 

Mouse

Trying to wheel
Supporting Member
Location
West Haven, UT
He even went so far as to try and tell me that the reaction I had within 24 hours of the shot had nothing to do with a reaction either and that my doctor was wrong. The only recourse I know of is to report it to VAERS. I reported both the new diagnosis and the doctor specifically for what I felt was trying to cover up a potentially serious side effect
Has the doctor requested a D-dimer test? Some people have reported clotting issues which can be detected with this test
 

ChestonScout

opinions are like Jeeps..
Location
Clinton, Ut
I’ve been considering getting the jab lately. My brother in law is in the ICU in Boise right now. Intubated and not doing well. It’s not looking good. Leaving a wife and 5 kids. He turned 40 the day they moved him in.
the whole family got it. He was the only one that was bad. Head cold for the rest of them. They are all better now.

I think that is absolutely insane your Dr won’t report it for what it is.
How sure are you that it is a small percentage with a reaction to the jab? If your Dr won’t report it, I’m sure there are many many more doing the same thing

I’m back to saying thanks but no thanks. For now anyway
 
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