RustEoldtrux
RustEoldtrux
- Location
- Evanston, WY
Especially disturbing is the release of prisoners. Best social distancing for them is to keep them behind bars.
Coronavirus
- Thread starter Kevin B.
- Start date
I understand its selfish of me to want my work schedule to remain the same for another month but I've loved working 0600-1000 then to be able to head home and work on my yard or other projects or just take a nap while my kid watches a PBS kids show or two. I'm expecting top soil this week and might be ready for sod by the end of next week. Without 'rona this wouldn't have been possible.
The other side is my wife is 32 weeks pregnant and due July 4. I haven't taken any PTO since December and my knee surgery so when the baby comes I'll have a mess of time I can take off to be home with them.
The other side is my wife is 32 weeks pregnant and due July 4. I haven't taken any PTO since December and my knee surgery so when the baby comes I'll have a mess of time I can take off to be home with them.
How's this study for understanding transmit-ability?
www.theguardian.com
Children unlikely to transmit coronavirus, says study cited in PM's push to reopen schools
NSW report held up as Morrison government seeks return to classrooms across Australia despite warnings from teacher unions
www.theguardian.com
Tonkaman
Well-Known Member
- Location
- West Jordan
I totally get it. I haven’t worked since February 5th, and honestly I’ve starting to enjoy my time at home. Going back to working is going to be kinda rough!
Houndoc
Registered User
- Location
- Grantsville
This is playing out exactly how I was afraid it would.
The direct impact of the disease has been relatively minor in most of our lives, so most people fail to recognize the success of the public health precautions that have been implemented. Conspiracy theories I guess are easier to believe than doctors and scientists.
But even at that as of this morning the US is at over 57,000 COVID-related deaths (and I don't want to hear the 'they aren't really COVID' B.S. Public health officials classify deaths as COVID if, even with other underlying problems, the person most likely would not have died when they did had they not been infected.)
That is not a small number! In roughly 6 weeks the number of deaths is approaching the total for the worst flu season in recent years and equal to about 18 months of auto fatalities.
Yes, we need to start taking steps to allow people to get back to work in smart and safe ways but the continued down playing of the pandemic at this point is rather exasperating.
The direct impact of the disease has been relatively minor in most of our lives, so most people fail to recognize the success of the public health precautions that have been implemented. Conspiracy theories I guess are easier to believe than doctors and scientists.
But even at that as of this morning the US is at over 57,000 COVID-related deaths (and I don't want to hear the 'they aren't really COVID' B.S. Public health officials classify deaths as COVID if, even with other underlying problems, the person most likely would not have died when they did had they not been infected.)
That is not a small number! In roughly 6 weeks the number of deaths is approaching the total for the worst flu season in recent years and equal to about 18 months of auto fatalities.
Yes, we need to start taking steps to allow people to get back to work in smart and safe ways but the continued down playing of the pandemic at this point is rather exasperating.
- Location
- Bountiful, land of rocks
I do like the discussion in this thread and the varying perspectives from folks. Hopefully we can keep that up?
The above is about where I stand on the whole deal
The above is about where I stand on the whole deal
The avenue for doing exactly what those pesky science-denying conspiracy theorists are saying, is there..... USA Today fact check:
Fact check: Hospitals get paid more if patients listed as COVID-19, on ventilators
Hospitals are paid more for Medicare patients with COVID-19, but a senator who first said that says he doesn't think the system is being gamed.
www.usatoday.com
Also this.... If PA is reclassifying, is it possible NY, NJ and many other states could do the same?
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- Location
- Bountiful, land of rocks
The avenue for doing exactly what those pesky science-denying conspiracy theorists are saying, is there..... USA Today fact check:
Fact check: Hospitals get paid more if patients listed as COVID-19, on ventilators
Hospitals are paid more for Medicare patients with COVID-19, but a senator who first said that says he doesn't think the system is being gamed.www.usatoday.com
That's even a liberal leaning rag source....
Precisely
Ditto... Unprecedented Gov overreach thanks to poor modelling early on, compounded by the fact that our "top scientists" are now avoiding actual data.
This is playing out exactly how I was afraid it would.
Dr Erickson on FOX the other day.... Youtube literally pulled their press release video in the time that this piece was airing on FOX because they deem it goes against official talking points of COVID-19... Essentially, they (YoutTube) labelled it as 'fake news'.
POR
Active Member
I really feel this is a blame tool for the impending failing us economy, also I think at the end of this, the gap between middle class and wealthy will be so far separate that financial wealth will be almost unattainable for the common man. All i keep hearing is things will be different after all this. In my state most have remained working except minimum wage -ish jobs and they banned all forms of recreation. That makes no sense to me. I can work but can't go to the woods or go fishing on a boat in a lake.... I can stand in line at home depot, but Frank's little hardware store had to shut down.. we are loosing our freedoms with scare tactics from our government.. makes me sick to see all the rich people on social media bragging about their government money paying for their business to run.. meanwhile non rich people are selling their possessions to survive.. it's like Mr rich man why don't you sell your fancy race car or boat to survive and keep your business afloat.. it really is a terrible time in history to be an American.. our nation is going to hell in a handbasket and soon will be back under the queen of England's control.. lol that's my rant hahaha
More fun numbers from the CDC
In 2017 there were 19,510 homicides in the US
Over 38,000 people die annually from car accidents
1 person dies every 37 seconds from heart disease.
Over 48,000 people commit suicide annually. Think that number may be higher this year?
51,000 from kidney disease
Good old school flu over 59,000
Almost 85,000 people a year from diabetes? Shouldn't we close down all the fast food restaurants and outlaw Twinkies?
122,000 from Alzheimer's
Do we need to continue?
Also not small numbers, why don't we all just stay inside all the time?
Some wise guy once said something along the lines of; If you give up your liberties for safety, you deserve neither.
Old Ben sounds like a pretty smart guy to me.
I'm just wondering how much a tinder box this is gonna be... (not that tinder, pervs)
Old Ben sounds like a pretty smart guy to me.
I'm just wondering how much a tinder box this is gonna be... (not that tinder, pervs)
- Location
- Draper, UT
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
- Location
- East Stabbington
As a poor person who's businesses are currently running off of government money, I think the small guys had just as much access to that money as anyone else. If you aren't proactive and able to get your applications finished and into a banker like your business/livelihood depends on it, then what do you want? The government to do it for you? I don't feel super bad for businesses that drug their feet and got left out. Adapt to survive.
As for home depot vs mom and pop hardware store... I mean it's the same uphill battle they were fighting before. But a business like home depot that employs tens of thousands of employees stands to kill a lot of jobs if they shut down. Maybe the government favors them disproportionately, but I don't think I'd assume it is in some vile and evil power play. They simply need large business to keep large numbers of people employed gainfully wherever possible.
As much as I don't like it, I don't expect the government to make well prepared and well managed companies burn up all of that savings while their lesser prepared competitors get the handouts. If the strong companies come out of this weak, and the weak companies come out stronger, that's likely going to create more problems down the road.
Agreed. I work for a bank and last I heard we've booked something like $2B in SBA loans since they were announced. Most of our clientele are VC's, tech start-up's, healthcare sciences and wine. The point is the programs are definitely out there...
POR
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- Location
- East Stabbington
I was funded with in 36 hours of the first PPP cycle for my brewery. My banker at First Utah was literally corresponding with me at almost midnight saturday and sunday night. I'm small potatoes, so no favoritism.
I applied the same time for my other business, and we did it through zions where our accounts are held. It took 2 weeks and we barely snuck in. So...I mean...I guess you could be with a shitty bank that didn't have their act together. I have some compassion for that.
I applied the same time for my other business, and we did it through zions where our accounts are held. It took 2 weeks and we barely snuck in. So...I mean...I guess you could be with a shitty bank that didn't have their act together. I have some compassion for that.
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