Check this out. So I'm working on my new shackles and spring hangers. I got kinda tired so I go cruise thru e-bay just to see what's going on. I stumble across this guy selling a Samurai, it has Calmini's 5" lift combo. This dude claims that the fact that it's sprung over helps it slide over rock better. If you want, you can see it. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2404254547&category=6468 That gave me a good laugh, so I wasn't so pissed off about my project any longer.