Talk to me about big adventure bikes.

02SE

Active Member
Location
Millcreek, UT
I've had the parts issues Jeeper had, called, they have X part, drive over, they have to order it. More than 3 times.
The straw was, I bought a new 300, they told me X price over the phone and it changed when I got there due to "fees", I told them Escape would sell it for X. He pretended to call Escape while I sat there and acted like their (Edge's) price would be less once all things were equal. I called Escape and the guy I was working with never received a call from Edge. So they staged that to keep me there and buying the bike.
Bought said bike, had a fork noise at 1 hr of run time. Took it back for warranty. They determined it was the front brake and charged me 1.5 hrs to identify that, then said warranty wouldn't cover it because nothing was wrong. Then to top it off, they tipped half a dozen bikes onto mine, brand new mind you, broke the kick stand, front fender and dented the pipe. I posted about the experience on a large offroad FB group. Brian Greene the owner reached out and ensured me he would make it right. He replaced the fender and fought me on the pipe and kickstand. He did end up replacing the kick stand but never replaced the pipe.

That's not very encouraging. I had a similar experience with Plaza Cycle years ago.
 

Gravy

Ant Anstead of Dirtbikes
I've heard 2 seperate stories about mechanics or sales people taking customer bikes on test drives -dropping them and trying to conceal the damage and then fighting them to repair it.

My experience was when I tried to buy a brand new bike- they quoted me $3,000 over MSRP on the year earlier carryover (an 18) when I showed them a written quote from Rocky Mountain ATV/MC for a 19 at MSRP. I asked them to match that on the 18- and they told me to kick rocks so I drove directly to St George picked up my new bike and without the ridiculous $1,500 document+ setup fees Edge wanted. RMATVMC even gave me a $250 credit to use on gear or parts :)

I've also had them tell me they had parts only to find out after a 40 minute drive they didn't at all. If I must go there now- I make them verify they have the parts in their hands and hold them for me at the parts desk before I drive down...
 

cruiseroutfit

Cruizah!
Moderator
Premium Vendor
Location
Sandy, Ut
I've heard 2 seperate stories about mechanics or sales people taking customer bikes on test drives -dropping them and trying to conceal the damage and then fighting them to repair it.

My experience was when I tried to buy a brand new bike- they quoted me $3,000 over MSRP on the year earlier carryover (an 18) when I showed them a written quote from Rocky Mountain ATV/MC for a 19 at MSRP. I asked them to match that on the 18- and they told me to kick rocks so I drove directly to St George picked up my new bike and without the ridiculous $1,500 document+ setup fees Edge wanted. RMATVMC even gave me a $250 credit to use on gear or parts :)

I've also had them tell me they had parts only to find out after a 40 minute drive they didn't at all. If I must go there now- I make them verify they have the parts in their hands and hold them for me at the parts desk before I drive down...

I'd have zero issues using RMATV too, also a major OHV access contributor. I've spent a lot of money there and will continue to do so.
 

J-mobzz

Well-Known Member
So I just ordered a Klim Krios Pro helmet yesterday. At $750 I’m kind of feeling some buyers remorse and I don’t even have it yet. I’ve never spent anywhere near that kind of money on a helmet before I have a hard time believing it’s going to be that much better.


If I put it on and I’m not blown away I’m sending it back.

So that said does anyone have a recommendation on a quality helmet?
 

Gravy

Ant Anstead of Dirtbikes
I've tried on that klim helmet. It's not that special.
And I'll tell you what I've told multiple people:
2 helmets.
1 off-road based ADV helmet. That Klim isn't nearly ventilated enough for any real off-road riding and it will get sweaty.
1 on road helmet. ADV helmets have 2 things against them for long on road trips. A peak that strains your neck and the shape: the pointed chin strains my neck when you turn your head at speed. And it doesn't seal to your head so it's loud.
Since I changed to this strategy I've been happier. Helmets are very "use specific" IMO

I have lots of Klim stuff. Some of it is worth it, lots is not. And their warranty and quality of a few things is complete garbage since Polaris put their hands in the pie. Used to be lifetime- now 1 year with exemptions.

If you MUST have only one helmet, the Bell MX-9 Adventure MIPS has all the same features (sans carbon) and better ventilation AND is 1/3 that price. Plus for $80 more you can get the DLX transition lens which is a game changer. It will go full dark to full light in 30 seconds and eliminates the need for shades . (I loooove this on my Bell Star DLX MIPS)
 
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J-mobzz

Well-Known Member
I've tried on that klim helmet. It's not that special.
And I'll tell you what I've told multiple people:
2 helmets.
1 off-road based ADV helmet. That Klim isn't nearly ventilated enough for any real off-road riding and it will get sweaty.
1 on road helmet. ADV helmets have 2 things against them for long on road trips. A peak that strains your neck and the shape: the pointed chin strains my neck when you turn your head at speed. And it doesn't seal to your head so it's loud.
Since I changed to this strategy I've been happier. Helmets are very "use specific" IMO

I have lots of Klim stuff. Some of it is worth it, lots is not. And their warranty and quality of a few things is complete garbage since Polaris put their hands in the pie. Used to be lifetime- now 1 year with exemptions.

If you MUST have only one helmet, the Bell MX-9 Adventure MIPS has all the same features (sans carbon) and better ventilation AND is 1/3 that price. Plus for $80 more you can get the DLX transition lens which is a game changer. It will go full dark to full light in 30 seconds and eliminates the need for shades . (I loooove this on my Bell Star DLX MIPS)
This is good and interesting feedback. It’s not that I need one helmet I have plenty of motocross helmets.

It’s interesting that you say that about the ventilation as that’s what they claim to be the biggest upgrade with the new klim opposed to the previous model is all the upgraded ventilation.

The bell helmet seems to have tons of reviews about how loud it is and the video in Rocky Mountain ATV mentioned that it’s based on a motocross shell and because of that inheritantly will be quite a bit louder.

I guess maybe I should be looking more street helmets at this point. I want something lightweight I want something safe and I want something relatively quiet.
 

Gravy

Ant Anstead of Dirtbikes
Low speed ventilation is where the Klim suffers.

It's my experience that no ADV helmet will be quiet except ones with rounder shapes, less ventilation and smaller head openings.
These are the three main sources of wind noise.
Shoei and Arai are about it but they are expensive too. Ask Chad @glockman about his new one

Street helmets are quieter bar none.
Make sure whichever helmet you look at specifies riding position. The quietest helmet in a tuck position for example isn't as quiet in a in upright position.
 

jeeper

Currently without Jeep
Location
So Jo, Ut
Those are good thoughts that I have not considered @Gravy My ADV helmet (ls2) is noisy. I don't like it. I didn't even think about going to an actual street helmet for noise reduction 🤦‍♂️
 

Greg

Starting Over
Admin
My favorite helmet was the Shoei Hornet X2 and loved it, the fit was perfect and the visor has massive vents that really prevented the visor putting stress on my neck at freeway speeds.
 

J-mobzz

Well-Known Member
My favorite helmet was the Shoei Hornet X2 and loved it, the fit was perfect and the visor has massive vents that really prevented the visor putting stress on my neck at freeway speeds.
I like how that one is also snell rated. That helmet never came up in my searches. It looks a little heavy but seems to be a quality piece. How would you rate the noise? I don’t know if you had helmet speakers or ever wore earbuds but that’s kind of what I’m hoping for is to find some thing that I don’t have to keep the music blasting to be able to hear it and help prevent hearing loss.
 

Greg

Starting Over
Admin
I like how that one is also snell rated. That helmet never came up in my searches. It looks a little heavy but seems to be a quality piece. How would you rate the noise? I don’t know if you had helmet speakers or ever wore earbuds but that’s kind of what I’m hoping for is to find some thing that I don’t have to keep the music blasting to be able to hear it and help prevent hearing loss.

It's built for speakers to be added, which I did and loved. I didn't think wind noise was bad, it never caused me any issues.
 

Gravy

Ant Anstead of Dirtbikes
Almost every new premium helmet is setup for COMS these days.

Ryan F9 has some really great info on Snell vs ece vs dot. Along with thoughtful info on adv and quiet helmets. But I agree with him that Snell is not the best rating currently. The higher ECE is more desirable.


He also quite likes the Klim helmet I believe. It just wasn't for me.
(Old video)

I wear these ear plugs (after trying about a dozen, these are the least entrusive and kill the most wind noise without killing my music quality and the ability to hear humans speak to me):


The "race" version (26db reduction)

And a Cardo Packtalk Bold.

Cardo is releasing a new version called the Edge. It promises to be even better.
The speakers are excellent in the Packtalk Bold and even better JBL speakers in the Black. And the sound cancelling I love.
The battery lasts a long long time and I got to enjoy using mine 7 days through Alaska last year.
I've got a serious hookup with Cardo if you decide that's the way to go.
 
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