Tesla Thoughts

TurboMinivan

Still plays with cars
Location
Lehi, UT
For those of you who are math-challenged but nevertheless trying to follow along from home:

The current Utah gasoline tax rate is $0.314 per gallon. For a BEV, the $120 annual surcharge equates to being charged the tax amount of 382.17 gallons of gasoline. If you were in a traditional gas burner rather than a BEV, how far could you go on those 382.17 gallons? If your car averaged 30.0 mpg overall, you'd travel 11,465 miles. If your car averaged 40.0 mpg overall, you'd travel 15,286 miles. (I think this is a better way to mentally frame the surcharge.)

As a former EV owner, I completely understand the need for paying my fair portion of the cost of road maintenance. As a result, the EV surcharge didn't really bother me.
 

UNSTUCK

But stuck more often.
Just curious if you were considering any fuel burners when you picked the Tesla? Were the purchase prices similar? What are your thoughts on replacement batteries? Dump the car before that happens or planning for the replacement? Are the savings really there, besides fuel costs?
 

skippy

Pretend Fabricator
Location
Tooele
Just curious if you were considering any fuel burners when you picked the Tesla? Were the purchase prices similar? What are your thoughts on replacement batteries? Dump the car before that happens or planning for the replacement? Are the savings really there, besides fuel costs?

My wife was driving a 2016 BMW X5M before we bought the tesla, We bought that before she started commuting to SLC everyday so when that got totalled we knew we wanted something much more fuel efficent but at the same time needed to be fun to drive and more importantly look cool.

The batteries and Drive motors are warrantied until 2030, after that your looking at $8500 to replace the battery pack. Chances are we wont have this car until 2030, no real plans to dump it in any time frame we just typically dont keep vehicles that long. Its also worth noting that the typical lifespan of this generation battery is about 350,000 miles. So if you compare it to a normal drivetrain the replacement is about the same as a engine or trans replacement you would have to do in a gas vehicle.

Back In february when Heather Wrecked the x5 she was averaging $411 per month to commute between gas and oil changes and that was before Gas went insanely high like it is now.

IMO even if we dont save a dime over owning a gas vehicle this car is still way funner to drive and has some of the coolest tech so either way we are happy
 

xj_nate

Doctor, economist, polical expert, poser
Location
UT
IMO even if we dont save a dime over owning a gas vehicle this car is still way funner to drive and has some of the coolest tech so either way we are happy

That seems impossible unless you factor in purchase price and you’re both driving 20 year old civics. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, you guys are the perfect use case for a Tesla.
 

anderson750

I'm working on it Rose
Location
Price, Utah
If I was a city commuter I would consider a Tesla but would never buy one as a vehicle to drive long distances on. A friend of mine who has to many vehicles bought one that his son was selling. He decided to drive it from Saratoga Springs to St. George and had to make a stop in Nephi and Beaver to charge it since he was dealing with less than optimal driving conditions.
 

skippy

Pretend Fabricator
Location
Tooele
If I was a city commuter I would consider a Tesla but would never buy one as a vehicle to drive long distances on. A friend of mine who has to many vehicles bought one that his son was selling. He decided to drive it from Saratoga Springs to St. George and had to make a stop in Nephi and Beaver to charge it since he was dealing with less than optimal driving conditions.
I drove mine From Tooele to St George in near perfect conditions and made it all the way to st george, Mind you I pulled in with 3% battery left but I like to live on the edge.
 

UNSTUCK

But stuck more often.
And then whats the logistics once you get to st george? Do you have a charger at a house there waiting for you or do you have to find a tesla charging station/costco/etc..? Is 120 volt even an option for charging? The electric bug I'm building has both 120 and 240 plug ins, but I think the 120 would take like a week to fully charge it.
 

skippy

Pretend Fabricator
Location
Tooele
And then whats the logistics once you get to st george? Do you have a charger at a house there waiting for you or do you have to find a tesla charging station/costco/etc..? Is 120 volt even an option for charging? The electric bug I'm building has both 120 and 240 plug ins, but I think the 120 would take like a week to fully charge it.
We charge at the place we always stay in St george via 240v. Tesla charging stations are all over down there though so thats not much of a concern. If you use the tesla superchargers your fully charged from empty in about 20-25 minutes and it costs you about 20 bucks. Also I have plugged in our tesla to 110v for about 12 hours and it charges about 20% so it would take roughly 60 hours or 2.5 days of constant charging on 110 to get fully charged.
 

anderson750

I'm working on it Rose
Location
Price, Utah
I drove mine From Tooele to St George in near perfect conditions and made it all the way to st george, Mind you I pulled in with 3% battery left but I like to live on the edge.
I am not sure of the year his is but I know it is at least a few years old. I am sure there is some battery life loss over time and that could play a factor as Well as the headwind he had
 
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