To address the initial question.
In the united states we are required to test ALL students. IEP, 504, no English language skills, they still test and are recorded on our test scores. Many countries do not test all students. they test the kids that are at good schools. Most countries do not have to deal with the same diversity in the classroom that the classrooms in the U.S. have. They are teaching for the most part students that speak the same language, come from good socio-economic standing, and realize that without a good education they will live in poverty their whole life. Education is free and available for all here in the United states. I love that about our country. Test scores as with all studies involving can be manipulated to say just about anything you want. We are doing better than the media lets on given the base we have to teach.
As to the voucher issue. You should check how these charter schools are testing. They don't test well, especially in math and science. Consistently , public schools outscore charter schools. There are exceptions of course. Most of the Charter schools that score really well have extremely difficult standards for the kids to keep. The students that don't perform academically or have behavior problems get kicked out. guess were those kids end up? Public schools. Interestingly enough these kids seem to be kicked out around the time the charter school no longer has to lose the money they received from the state for having that student attend that school. Smart move on the charter schools part, but regular public schools don't have that option. Public schools teach that student, don't get the funding from them and then have the test scores go on their record. I think that the notion that vouchers will fix education is hilarious. Suddenly, students will learn because vouchers are around, haha, wow.
I am all for competition I would love my pay to be based on performance. I would make a huge load of money! My students perform really well. It would just me more beneficial to have the competition be on a level playing field.
Throwing money at teachers won't directly lead to increased performance in the classroom You would, long term, pick up private sector individuals that could really help (like Steve). You can pay me less (I found out yesterday I am taking a pay cut) and I will still teach, I love it and not just the teaching aspect. I love the kids! The kids love me and success is the option in my classroom. It doesn't matter what the pay is, some teachers will be bad. Money in the education will immediately and directly influence performance in the classroom. I have 45 students per class in my classroom. More funding on a legislative level can make that smaller. Individual attention to students goes up with smaller class sizes, weird, that is a hard thing for some people to understand.
Some of you seem really pissed off at public education. I am sorry that you feel like you have been wronged. I wish I had you in my class, maybe you would feel differently. That being said, I make mistakes and I am sure students hate me. Thank goodness it is at least a little difficult to fire a teacher. I had a parent want my job just last week, because their daughter spilled some vinegar on herself.
Education is a personal thing and it causes some serious feelings both ways. Make sure you are educated about education and then vote for those that believe the way you do.
FWIW, if you look me up on Utah's right to know it shows me making about 15k more than I actually do haha. Also those people making so much money are holding advanced degrees.
In the united states we are required to test ALL students. IEP, 504, no English language skills, they still test and are recorded on our test scores. Many countries do not test all students. they test the kids that are at good schools. Most countries do not have to deal with the same diversity in the classroom that the classrooms in the U.S. have. They are teaching for the most part students that speak the same language, come from good socio-economic standing, and realize that without a good education they will live in poverty their whole life. Education is free and available for all here in the United states. I love that about our country. Test scores as with all studies involving can be manipulated to say just about anything you want. We are doing better than the media lets on given the base we have to teach.
As to the voucher issue. You should check how these charter schools are testing. They don't test well, especially in math and science. Consistently , public schools outscore charter schools. There are exceptions of course. Most of the Charter schools that score really well have extremely difficult standards for the kids to keep. The students that don't perform academically or have behavior problems get kicked out. guess were those kids end up? Public schools. Interestingly enough these kids seem to be kicked out around the time the charter school no longer has to lose the money they received from the state for having that student attend that school. Smart move on the charter schools part, but regular public schools don't have that option. Public schools teach that student, don't get the funding from them and then have the test scores go on their record. I think that the notion that vouchers will fix education is hilarious. Suddenly, students will learn because vouchers are around, haha, wow.
I am all for competition I would love my pay to be based on performance. I would make a huge load of money! My students perform really well. It would just me more beneficial to have the competition be on a level playing field.
Throwing money at teachers won't directly lead to increased performance in the classroom You would, long term, pick up private sector individuals that could really help (like Steve). You can pay me less (I found out yesterday I am taking a pay cut) and I will still teach, I love it and not just the teaching aspect. I love the kids! The kids love me and success is the option in my classroom. It doesn't matter what the pay is, some teachers will be bad. Money in the education will immediately and directly influence performance in the classroom. I have 45 students per class in my classroom. More funding on a legislative level can make that smaller. Individual attention to students goes up with smaller class sizes, weird, that is a hard thing for some people to understand.
Some of you seem really pissed off at public education. I am sorry that you feel like you have been wronged. I wish I had you in my class, maybe you would feel differently. That being said, I make mistakes and I am sure students hate me. Thank goodness it is at least a little difficult to fire a teacher. I had a parent want my job just last week, because their daughter spilled some vinegar on herself.
Education is a personal thing and it causes some serious feelings both ways. Make sure you are educated about education and then vote for those that believe the way you do.
FWIW, if you look me up on Utah's right to know it shows me making about 15k more than I actually do haha. Also those people making so much money are holding advanced degrees.
