Political So now what

[anderson750]

Other than spending I like the policies he put in. Bring back 4 more years.

He spent a lot of money rebuilding the military after 8 years of neglect, so some of the spending in my eyes was worth it. When it comes to the COVID money, I think it was a choice between causing long term inflation or long term recession. I don't know which would be worse other than recession would have meant even more small businesses closing and big box business being the only thing that survives.

 

[Jesser04]

Other than spending I like the policies he put in. Bring back 4 more years.

 

[mbryson]

I say we remove both Trump and Biden for this election and go from there

 

[glockman]

Other than spending I like the policies he put in. Bring back 4 more years.

Trump was pretty anti 2A and pro ATF. Bump stock ban anyone? I really dislike that.

 

[Unimog]

I say we remove both Trump and Biden for this election and go from there

This would be my vote. Neither one is a good option at this point. I do like the anti-establishment vibe that trump puts off, but I can't stomach the rest of the crap that comes with him.

 

[jeeper]

This would be my vote. Neither one is a good option at this point. I do like the anti-establishment vibe that trump puts off, but I can't stomach the rest of the crap that comes with him.

Sounds like Ramaswamy is your guy.

 

[glockman]

Sounds like Ramaswamy is your guy.

I have really liked all the interviews I have seen with Ramaswamy. Especially the fact that he openly asks questions that get him labeled as supporting "Right wing and white supremist conspiracy theories". The CNN interview was great. The backlash from the left leaning media is astounding. Do people on the left really think things are based on white supremacy when they are being spoken by brown people? I understand not agreeing with someone's point but to call it white supremacy is odd. Just like @Cody pointed out that the white supremacist leader of the Proud boys just so happens to not be white. How do people even these things?

 

[Herzog]

I have really liked all the interviews I have seen with Ramaswamy. Especially the fact that he openly asks questions that get him labeled as supporting "Right wing and white supremist conspiracy theories". The CNN interview was great. The backlash from the left leaning media is astounding. Do people on the left really think things are based on white supremacy when they are being spoken by brown people? I understand not agreeing with someone's point but to call it white supremacy is odd. Just like @Cody pointed out that the white supremacist leader of the Proud boys just so happens to not be white. How do people even these things?

I don't like Ramaswamy - he's a WEF plant and is saying whatever he's told to get the votes, IMO. There's evidence to that statement as well.

Everybody who doesn't agree with the mainstream ideology is a "Racist" or "White Supremacist". The words and phrases have completely lost their power now. Every race on the planet can be proud of their heritage, but not the white man? Bullshit. Go kick rocks.

 

[ID Bronco]

One of my friends is an Indian guy who is good friends with Ramaswamy. He did a fundraiser for him. He says he's a good dude. His original money came from some sketchy Dems though. He won't get the nomination so it's futile to get too worked up over him.

 

[moab_cj5]

Ramaswamy was on Mike Rowe's podcast a while back. I like what he has to say. I will likely be voting for him in the primary.

 

[Herzog]

Bulllllshit. Show biz.

 

[jeeper]

I don't like Ramaswamy - he's a WEF plant and is saying whatever he's told to get the votes, IMO. There's evidence to that statement as well.

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Bulllllshit. Show biz.

I'm confused.

You say he's a plant for them, then show that he sued them for claiming he was associated.

Your claim is that he IS associated, and the lawsuit and such are a hoax?

 

[Herzog]

I'm confused.

You say he's a plant for them, then show that he sued them for claiming he was associated.

Your claim is that he IS associated, and the lawsuit and such are a hoax?

Yea he was on their "roster" for years right up until he became a candidate. The lawsuit is show biz.

Why didn't he sue them 5 years ago?

 

[jeeper]

Yea he was on their "roster" for years right up until he became a candidate. The lawsuit is show biz.

Why didn't he sue them 5 years ago?

I haven't given any thought to any person yet.. so no clue here.

But, I'm on SUWA's mailing list. I might not want that to continue if I were running for San Juan county election.

 

[Herzog]

I haven't given any thought to any person yet.. so no clue here.

But, I'm on SUWA's mailing list. I might not want that to continue if I were running for San Juan county election.

Yea I get that, but being on a mailing list is much different from being highlighted as a WEF "Young American Leader" because you were involved in their courses and learning to further a career.

Dan Crenshaw was also on the same list. He got removed after getting called out in public over it. They are doing damage control.

 

[glockman]

Yea I get that, but being on a mailing list is much different from being highlighted as a WEF "Young American Leader" because you were involved in their courses and learning to further a career.

Dan Crenshaw was also on the same list. He got removed after getting called out in public over it. They are doing damage control.

So you're saying there are a bunch of politicians running for office🤣. I think they are all bullshit artists. That's why I'll cling to my guns and my race tech suspension bible.

 

[Gravy]

Opinion: In Utah, you don’t have to disclose your cellphone password — even if police have a search warrant

While police officers may be permitted to search your device with a warrant, you are not obligated to reveal the passcode to unlock it.

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I like this. Here's my phone, want the password? Too bad.

 

[Stephen]

I have a theory, some might call it a conspiracy theory but if you open your eyes, its right there in front of you. Google, Meta, Truth Social are all just suppressing it, but here it is: Donald Trump is a Democratic Party plant!

Its SO simple! Listen, in 2015 it was obvious that Hilary Clinton was going to be trounced by any generic, off the shelf establishment Republican. So the Dems had to do something, ANYTHING, to make sure that their girl could break the glass ceiling. So they turned to their deep pocketed friend Mr. Trump (who had been a life long Democrat until about five minutes ago). They said, "Hey, Donny do you want to put your brand THROUGH THE ROOF? Run for President! Put yourself out there on the worlds biggest stage, say whatever you want, be your brash self and just wreak the GOP for us! There's no chance you'll beat Hilary, so you don't have to worry about actually doing hard stuff; but your brand will be bigger than ever!" Being a narcissist, Trump said sure. But what he didn't figure was that the crazy stuff he was saying just to create soundbites and get him in the news would resonate and he would actually WIN in 2016! Oh shit! Now the GOP thinks its in control, now what?

Easy, continue to act unhinged, say the dumbest things you can to enrage the most people as possible, spend ALL the money, never actually 'drain the swamp' so that the entrenched civil servants stay where they are and do all that you can to make sure that the Dems win big in the 2018 midterms. Guess what, that happened! That's TRUTH! Trump became the BIGGEST Democratic voter turnout machine in YEARS and the DNC trounced the GOP in 2018. Done.

Now it was just a matter of getting the right Dem into the White House who could be easily controlled by the Uniparty for the next eight years. Enter Joe Biden, the one guy who was so rotten on the inside, but unoffensive on the outside. But the race had to look close so the right wing extremists wouldn't suspect that Trump was a plant. It worked AGAIN. And if you have any doubt, Trump went to far as to MAKE SURE that the Dems would control the Senate by actively working to tank the GOP's shot at winning the Georgia special election! And then again in 2022 Trump when out of his way to attack and defame Republican candidates in competitive races to ENSURE that they lost to the Democrats!

And in order to make SURE that Biden stays in office for two terms, Trump had to maintain a high profile because everyone knows Biden would get obliterated by ANY other Republican in 2024 other than in a rematch with Trump. Hence the stolen election narrative and all the criminal probes and inditements. Keep Trump front and center so that no one pays any attention to Biden and how inept he is.

2024 is shaping up to be another Democratic sweep of federal elections and probably down ballot as well. This is all CLEAR evidence that Donald J. Trump is a Democratic Party PLANT! Don't buy what the MSM/Q-Anon Democratic Media Complex are feeding you. Open your EYES, its RIGHT THERE!
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Addendum:

I wrote the above in jest, but really it has to be true OR Donald Trump is simply the biggest political loser in American history. He won a single election because he was running against the most hated politician in a generation. Every other election that he has contested, he has lost. Aside from 2016 every election cycle that he has influenced has ended up worse for the party that he is supposedly the head of. He has been the single biggest turn out machine for the Democratic Party since the New Deal.

I would encourage everyone to really think about what four more years of Biden will be like, especially with two of them likely to have unified control of the Federal government again. Its no guarantee that Biden wins, but the only person he's even remotely competitive against is Trump. Any other Republican candidate beats him in a landslide (except Ramaswamy, who loses by more than Trump would).

Utah doesn't have much sway in the GOP primary race, but we do have a chance to nominate someone else and hope that other states do as well. Going to your local caucus in March and exercising your franchise is the only hope GOP has to break the cycle of failure that conservatives have faced since 2018.

 

[mbryson]

I do find it funny that the Trumpsters seem to ignore King Donny's historical political position. I honestly can see some of your perspective above. King Donald decided he COULD win and then it went from there. Now he's just being the TV show knucklehead that he always has been ?

I DID like some of his policies and such. If he was diplomatic at all, he'd be a killer executive. He's just wired to be the douchbag that he is. Good for him, I guess

 

[Herzog]

I do find it funny that the Trumpsters seem to ignore King Donny's historical political position.

it's not ignored. It was pretty well known. My position at the very beginning of the 2016 election was ironically what Stephen just suggested. I figured he was put in as the candidate to ensure the big H win. It made sense, especially seeing what the RNC did to Ron Paul. It wasn't until a year later I started liking Trump. So, whatever.