New bag, WM Megalite or Zpacks? Fear based decision?
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Congrats! I'm still about a month, maybe closer to two months from ordering. And still undecided beteen Zpacks and EE. Gonna be one of the two though.
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sixstringsteve
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I'm torn between making my own and ordering one.
well, if you hurry and decide I bet he will extend the discount for however many I buy
I think the EE and Zpacks seem like a toss up. I ultimately went with the Zpacks because I know the quality and what I am getting. The EE was a variable for me. I think they both seem awesome though.
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I think a 20* zpacks quilt combined with a 40* quilt would make a killer winter setup, and both together would still weigh less than my 5* WM Antelope. Hm...
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I put up a holler on Freecycle for peoples old down pillows and blankets, but nobody wanted to give me any. Maybe I should post again.
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I need to learn where to go to buy cuben fiber, down, and pertex quantum gl.
That would be an awesome set up and cover you for all seasons.
The 40 degree would be such a cool inner fill bag too for bags with too much space in them.
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Sent ya a PM Davy.
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So Davy is a good influence. My decision is made, order is in. Done.
Zpacks 30*, Extra Long/Wide. About 18 oz. That's me baby!
Probably won't use it until my Salt Creek trip, unless I'm able to pull off a short Grand Gulch backpack before then (maybe, just maybe...). Looking very forward to it though!
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Zpacks 30*, Extra Long/Wide. About 18 oz. That's me baby!
Probably won't use it until my Salt Creek trip, unless I'm able to pull off a short Grand Gulch backpack before then (maybe, just maybe...). Looking very forward to it though!
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sixstringsteve
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Very cool. I'm thinking a zpacks is for me too.
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Dave, I hope you don't mind me continuing this great thread, I think it applies.
I'm driving myself insane trying to decide what system is going to work for me. I even made this brain-numbing spreadsheet to compare the bags I'm interested in:
Sleeping Bag Comparison
I love my WM bags, and while light weight is important, it's only important if I sleep well. I don't think I could do a hoodless bag in the winter, but I do think I could do one in the summer, provided it zipped all the way to the bottom to open up when it gets hot.
Here's what I'd like:
- a 30-35* bag or quilt for summer
- a 10-15* bag for cold nights in the spring and fall, and mild winter. honestly, this bag will probably get more use than a 30* bag for me since I sleep so cold. I'm pretty sure I want a hood for this bag.
- a -10 to 0* setup for cold winter trips (I only do one or two of these a year, and weight isn't a big issue here)
I think I could get by with two bags, then combine them for super cold winter stuff.
I'm driving myself insane trying to decide what system is going to work for me. I even made this brain-numbing spreadsheet to compare the bags I'm interested in:
Sleeping Bag Comparison
I love my WM bags, and while light weight is important, it's only important if I sleep well. I don't think I could do a hoodless bag in the winter, but I do think I could do one in the summer, provided it zipped all the way to the bottom to open up when it gets hot.
Here's what I'd like:
- a 30-35* bag or quilt for summer
- a 10-15* bag for cold nights in the spring and fall, and mild winter. honestly, this bag will probably get more use than a 30* bag for me since I sleep so cold. I'm pretty sure I want a hood for this bag.
- a -10 to 0* setup for cold winter trips (I only do one or two of these a year, and weight isn't a big issue here)
I think I could get by with two bags, then combine them for super cold winter stuff.
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Continue!
I know what you mean about going insane. I'm generally pretty decisive. But I was driving myself absolutely crazy going back and forth on this. I'm at peace now, that I've made a decision and acted on it.
But I won't know how well it's really going to work for quite awhile. I don't see much oppportunity for backpacking with a 30* zippered quilt for a few more months... My Salt Creek trip isn't until May 1, but I'm thinking about trying to get in a shorter Grand Gulch trip before then. Grand Gulch in April might be a good road test for the new 30* Zpacks.
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I know what you mean about going insane. I'm generally pretty decisive. But I was driving myself absolutely crazy going back and forth on this. I'm at peace now, that I've made a decision and acted on it.
But I won't know how well it's really going to work for quite awhile. I don't see much oppportunity for backpacking with a 30* zippered quilt for a few more months... My Salt Creek trip isn't until May 1, but I'm thinking about trying to get in a shorter Grand Gulch trip before then. Grand Gulch in April might be a good road test for the new 30* Zpacks.
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I always test a new sleep setup in my yard - especially for cold weather. That way I can always walk in the house if it isn't working out. I think I'll go with my boy on the Klondike campout this weekend and have a little fun Winter camping! I'm going to test augmenting my sleep system with some fleece and down clothing.
I've been eyeballing the z-packs bags for awhile now and this thread hasn't helped shy me away. I'm 5'5" ~ 165lbs and pretty average temp when it comes to sleeping compared to friends I've camped with. I have a marmot Helium 15 degree women's bag (around 7-10 degrees mens) that I use when it's cold and a Kelty Cosmic Down 20, size short, bag for warmer weather. For a cheap bag the Kelty has worked great, I just want to cut weight and free up some space in my pack and a quality bag will do both.
Since most of my outdoors camping is during 3-season weather where at most it's freezing at night I'm leaning towards the 30 degree Z-packs in a medium or long length and wide width (I don't think I can fit in the narrow size, my shoulders and chest are too large but wish I could try both widths out just to be sure).
My dilemma is do I go with medium or long length and do I go 20 or 30 degree bag? A medium length 30 degree is 15.4oz and the 20 degree long is 19.8oz so not a huge amount in the grand scheme of things but I've become a bit of a gram weenie (not full blown bpl nut job though) and am doing my best to keep my pack weight down. Thoughts?
Edit: I'm leaning towards the 20 degree bag and the long just to give me a little more versatility for spring and fall use at high altitudes.
Since most of my outdoors camping is during 3-season weather where at most it's freezing at night I'm leaning towards the 30 degree Z-packs in a medium or long length and wide width (I don't think I can fit in the narrow size, my shoulders and chest are too large but wish I could try both widths out just to be sure).
My dilemma is do I go with medium or long length and do I go 20 or 30 degree bag? A medium length 30 degree is 15.4oz and the 20 degree long is 19.8oz so not a huge amount in the grand scheme of things but I've become a bit of a gram weenie (not full blown bpl nut job though) and am doing my best to keep my pack weight down. Thoughts?
Edit: I'm leaning towards the 20 degree bag and the long just to give me a little more versatility for spring and fall use at high altitudes.
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sixstringsteve
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I think that's a good choice, but I sleep cold so i always lean towards the wamer bag. I'm 5'6" and when I tried Davy's long it came up to my eyeballs. I felt like I wouldn't want anything shorter or it'd struggle to come up to my neck.
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Heck yeah- YAY!
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