Any Mtn Bikers on RME?

TRD270

Emptying Pockets Again
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SaSaSandy
My son has been wanting a "good" mountain bike for a long time. We pulled the trigger and dropped $900 on a Speacialized Rockhopper, helmet, lifetime service, yada yada. I haven't seen a smile so big in a long time. The kid was going crazy. He rode it all night long. This morning........two flat tires. You have to be kidding me. A Walmart bike would have lasted just as long. So what do I do? Looks like he picked up some thorns. With the tires flat, I was very surprised to see/feel how flimsy the tires are. What's my next step here? The green goo? Something else? These are tube tires. Are tubeless any better?
Go tubeless and run stans or the orange stuff
 

Corban_White

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Location
Payson, AZ
I run tubeless with Stans tire sealant in most of the bikes at my house. For the trail rider tubeless is the way to go. However, I'd probably recommend leaving the tubes in and using green slime for you. It is way more simple and IMO more effective on the neighborhood goat heads (thorns). No matter what anyone says tubeless is a bit of maintenance. I do it because I like the benefits on the trail, but on the BMX and the DJ bikes that just get ridden around the neighborhood I run tubes and slime.
 

Kevin B.

Not often wrong. Never quite right.
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Location
Vehicular limbo
He probably hit a patch of goatheads. They're the worst. Before you do anything else, you and he should go over his tires with a fine toothed comb and get those out. They like to break off in the tire, so be sure to inspect the inside as well as the outside.

What do I need to do to run tubeless? What is Stans?
What you NEED to run tubeless is a rimstrip and valve stem and some tubeless sealant. Stans and Orange Seal are the two big brands, and both sell conversion kits with all of that. If his Rockhopper came with rims and tubes designed for tubeless, I recommend doing the conversion. The bike shop you bought it from will do it pretty cheap, or if you haven't moved yet I can bop over and help you set it up, it's pretty easy. If the bike is NOT tubeless ready, you can probably still run tubeless but it's a lot more finicky and prone to failure. If you'd rather go the simple way there's a couple options - you can add Slime to his tubes (or buy Slime tubes that already have it), you can run thorn resistant tubes that have a really thick layer of rubber on the outside, or you can add a thorn strip between the tube and the tire.

Or buy the kid a BIG box of tube patches. :D
 

rholbrook

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Location
Kaysville, Ut
My son has been wanting a "good" mountain bike for a long time. We pulled the trigger and dropped $900 on a Speacialized Rockhopper, helmet, lifetime service, yada yada. I haven't seen a smile so big in a long time. The kid was going crazy. He rode it all night long. This morning........two flat tires. You have to be kidding me. A Walmart bike would have lasted just as long. So what do I do? Looks like he picked up some thorns. With the tires flat, I was very surprised to see/feel how flimsy the tires are. What's my next step here? The green goo? Something else? These are tube tires. Are tubeless any better?
They also make a tire liner that works great. I believe the Rockhopper is tubliss ready which means the rim already has the tubliss tape on it. If so, get a new valve stem and some Stans or equivalent and pump it up. I run tubliss on all three of ours.
 

glockman

I hate Jeep trucks
Location
Pleasant Grove
Most tubeless setups use Presta valves. You need a different pump for them, I know that's a big deal to some people (Jeeper). I did find a set of Schrader tubeless valves at my local bike shop when I setup my son's riprock tubeless. I'd just buy the stans or orange seal and put it in the tubes. Another great product that I'm pretty sure Slime is a rip off of, is called Flat Attack and was invented here in Utah. It works great in tubes.

This stuff. Easy to install into tubes and works great.
 

Tonkaman

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Location
West Jordan
If you keep the tubes definitely put the thorn proof plastic strip between the tire and tube It works great! I also recommend putting Stan’s into the tubes
 

RockChucker

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Location
Highland
i run tubes. i haven't had a single flat in over 1000 miles of riding. my secret are tannus inserts. they work pretty dang good. but they add weight to an already "heavy" tube setup. however, i'm not a racer against anyone but myself and i can keep up with the guys i ride with (usually). I typically run about 22 psi in the tires as well.
 

Tonkaman

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Location
West Jordan
i run tubes. i haven't had a single flat in over 1000 miles of riding. my secret are tannus inserts. they work pretty dang good. but they add weight to an already "heavy" tube setup. however, i'm not a racer against anyone but myself and i can keep up with the guys i ride with (usually). I typically run about 22 psi in the tires as well.
Wow, I never saw those before. That looks like the ultimate solution for goat heads
 

N-Smooth

Smooth Gang Founding Member
Location
UT
Yeah I got a rock hopper 29er last year too and within a few days of cruising it around my neighborhood both tires were flat. I feel like between my bike, my boys’ bikes and both of their electric dirt bikes I spend way too much time fixing flats. I really like the idea of those inserts.

Too many tires in my life!
 

moab_cj5

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Supporting Member
Due to my clothes not fitting super well lately, I did some introspection and found I was happier and skinnier when I rode my MTN bike several times a week. I had gotten to the point I didn't love my hard tail, so I stopped riding much.

It's pretty early in the season, but I reached out to a buddy that owns Bikers Edge in Kaysville and got his thoughts on a new bike. Without much convincing he laid out why now is the right time for me before the spring rush on bikes.

Long story shorter, I bought a new bike today. Now I am in search of early season riding close to home. Thinking of hitting antelope island next Saturday if the weather holds. Maybe even hitting the Kaysville Wilderness Park or Fruit Loops. Anyone want to hit a trail next Saturday?

I picked up a Santa Cruz Bronson. It's a mixed wheelset (29" front, 27.5" rear) in their mid tier build. Big travel but not HUGE travel. It's supposed to be a good all of Utah bike. I'm stoked to get some rides in on it!
 

mbryson

.......a few dollars more
Supporting Member
Due to my clothes not fitting super well lately, I did some introspection and found I was happier and skinnier when I rode my MTN bike several times a week. I had gotten to the point I didn't love my hard tail, so I stopped riding much.

It's pretty early in the season, but I reached out to a buddy that owns Bikers Edge in Kaysville and got his thoughts on a new bike. Without much convincing he laid out why now is the right time for me before the spring rush on bikes.

Long story shorter, I bought a new bike today. Now I am in search of early season riding close to home. Thinking of hitting antelope island next Saturday if the weather holds. Maybe even hitting the Kaysville Wilderness Park or Fruit Loops. Anyone want to hit a trail next Saturday?

I picked up a Santa Cruz Bronson. It's a mixed wheelset (29" front, 27.5" rear) in their mid tier build. Big travel but not HUGE travel. It's supposed to be a good all of Utah bike. I'm stoked to get some rides in on it!


Hit me up. How long of ride? (because I'm a fat ass now that I don't walk around a factory any longer)
 

Kevin B.

Not often wrong. Never quite right.
Moderator
Location
Vehicular limbo
Due to my clothes not fitting super well lately, I did some introspection and found I was happier and skinnier when I rode my MTN bike several times a week. I had gotten to the point I didn't love my hard tail, so I stopped riding much.

It's pretty early in the season, but I reached out to a buddy that owns Bikers Edge in Kaysville and got his thoughts on a new bike. Without much convincing he laid out why now is the right time for me before the spring rush on bikes.

Long story shorter, I bought a new bike today. Now I am in search of early season riding close to home. Thinking of hitting antelope island next Saturday if the weather holds. Maybe even hitting the Kaysville Wilderness Park or Fruit Loops. Anyone want to hit a trail next Saturday?

I picked up a Santa Cruz Bronson. It's a mixed wheelset (29" front, 27.5" rear) in their mid tier build. Big travel but not HUGE travel. It's supposed to be a good all of Utah bike. I'm stoked to get some rides in on it!
I am probably in for Antelope Island next Saturday, as long as it's not sloppy (and it shouldn't be, those are pretty sandy trails).

Interested to see how you like that mullet. I rode one a while back and didn't like the feel of the smaller wheel in back.
 
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