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Here's the superwinch code: http://www.rme4x4.com/showthread.php?94119-50-off-at-Superwinch&highlight=superwinch
which winch for a guy who doesn't like winches?
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sixstringsteve
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This one seems hard to beat at $255.
http://www.superwinch.com/p/tiger-shark-9500-9500-lbs-12v?pp=12&pp=12
http://www.superwinch.com/p/tiger-shark-9500-9500-lbs-12v?pp=12&pp=12
sixstringsteve
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If money were no option, I'd get the WARN Zeon 10
sixstringsteve
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Very helpful thread, thanks guys. I'm convinced I want a winch. A few more questions:
Anyone have any experience with the WARN zeon winches? Yeah, they look cool/symmetrical, but are they any better than their basic winch?
I'm also wondering about which weight rating to get. I know you're supposed to get a winch that's rated for at least 1.5x your vehicle weight. I read that a stock double cab weighs 3430 lbs. m guessing my doublecab will weigh in at about 4000-4500 lbs loaded with people and gear. Are there any disadvantages to getting a bigger winch that's closer to double your weight, like a 9000 or 10000 lb winch? Do they draw more power from the battery? Are they bigger? Are they heavier? Is an 8000 lb winch plenty? I know i can use a snatch strap to double my pulling capacity. Just curious if an 8000lb is enough. I plan on building a bumper around this winch, so I want to get the right one off the bat.
Anyone have any experience with the WARN zeon winches? Yeah, they look cool/symmetrical, but are they any better than their basic winch?
I'm also wondering about which weight rating to get. I know you're supposed to get a winch that's rated for at least 1.5x your vehicle weight. I read that a stock double cab weighs 3430 lbs. m guessing my doublecab will weigh in at about 4000-4500 lbs loaded with people and gear. Are there any disadvantages to getting a bigger winch that's closer to double your weight, like a 9000 or 10000 lb winch? Do they draw more power from the battery? Are they bigger? Are they heavier? Is an 8000 lb winch plenty? I know i can use a snatch strap to double my pulling capacity. Just curious if an 8000lb is enough. I plan on building a bumper around this winch, so I want to get the right one off the bat.
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sixstringsteve
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interesting. So do 8000 lb winches typically pull faster than a 10,000 lb?
Yes, in cases where just the gearing has changed.
sixstringsteve
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Thanks Dan. While comparing the zeon 8 to the zeon 10, I see a few differences:
10,000 lb is 4 lbs heavier
10,000 lb has 80' of line
8,000 lb has 100' of line
10,000 lb has 3/8" cable
8,000 lb has 5/16" cable
10,000 lb is 4.8 ft/min
8,000 lb is 6.5 ft/min
10,000 lb current draw: 409 amps
8,000 lb current draw: 353 amps
10,000 lb is 4 lbs heavier
10,000 lb has 80' of line
8,000 lb has 100' of line
10,000 lb has 3/8" cable
8,000 lb has 5/16" cable
10,000 lb is 4.8 ft/min
8,000 lb is 6.5 ft/min
10,000 lb current draw: 409 amps
8,000 lb current draw: 353 amps
I get to see and install and spool a lot of different winches. From a $2000 to a $199 cheapo...
Biggest difference I see when spooling is that warns will coast. That is to say that after you release the switch, it will continue to suck in (under no load) for a few feet. Versus every other brand I've worked with as soon as you release the switch, it stops.
Take that for what it is worth... I **assume** it has to do with a better design for a load holding brake on the warn and most others are continually fighting the brake.
Biggest difference I see when spooling is that warns will coast. That is to say that after you release the switch, it will continue to suck in (under no load) for a few feet. Versus every other brand I've worked with as soon as you release the switch, it stops.
Take that for what it is worth... I **assume** it has to do with a better design for a load holding brake on the warn and most others are continually fighting the brake.
sixstringsteve
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looks like an 8000 lb will be plenty for me.
That is all to be expected for the different sizes.
Gearing for the 8k 162:1 and the 10k is 216:1
I couldn't find with a quick search what the HP ratings of the motors are... but I would assume that they are the same.
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sixstringsteve
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interesting. I found a guy with a warn m8000 that wants to trade for some parts I have. I think I might take him up on that.
TJDukit
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When you do get a winch and get to wiring it up look into this conversion http://www.fjcruiserforums.com/forums/how-technical-articles/130072-warn-winch-solenoid-upgrade.html I intend to convert mine when I get back.
I would feel very confident with a M8000. I ran one on my toyota back in the day and it was awesome.
sixstringsteve
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I heard that m8000's aren't waterproof, is that true? I definitely want one that can handle being underwater.
sixstringsteve
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are solenoids the part that have issues when being submerged?
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Mine took a dip then pulled us both across...
I don't know what the standard it for a winch to be considered "water proof". I know that many a standard winch has been underwater and are still working fine. And I have seen a couple work while under water. But several say that they are water proof... I assume that has more to do with the motor housing being better sealed, more so than the control pack.