8.1 Vortec YJ

[markegbert]

here is how the bumpers are so far.

 

[Matt]

Nice! got a side profile pic?

 

[markegbert]

i am going to raise the front hangers on my front leafs. does anyone know how high i can go with my shackle reversal still working.

 

[markegbert]

Nice! got a side profile pic?

i added one to my profile but i doesn't come up on the screen, i don't know why?

 

[markegbert]

comp cut the rear fenders, might need to cut a little more when i flex it out.

 

[Matt]

That shackle angle doesn't look right, is that pic with the weight of the jeep on it?

 

[ALBO1023]

Hey Mark, Looks like you've been busy...

 

[markegbert]

the shackle angle is not right, i will move the front hangers back later this week. it is strange because i moved all of the rear suspension back 7.5 inches and now the shackle is off. the only thing different is a spring under from a spring over. makes no sense to me.

 

[markegbert]

Hey Mark, Looks like you've been busy...[/QUOTE

i have, do i know you?

 

[1995zj]

Looks sick Mark! I'll have to come check it out in person sometime.

 

[Maverick]

i am going to raise the front hangers on my front leafs. does anyone know how high i can go with my shackle reversal still working.

Are you sure you want shackle reversal? For a desert runner, maybe. For a crawler, not so much. I've considered changing mine back.

 

[markegbert]

Are you sure you want shackle reversal? For a desert runner, maybe. For a crawler, not so much. I've considered changing mine back.

i have looked into it and this is what i have read.
http://www.jeeptech.com/susp/elkcahs/

 

[Maverick]

That's a pretty good article, with good explanation and good points, but I disagree with their conclusions (and I have a lot of respect for all three of the authors). For street or high speed, SR. For crawling, shackle forward.

What many have found is that as a SR pulls it can load and unload causing bouncing, whereas shackle forward lets the front axle simply pull. Think if it also as the axle pushing on the spring vs pulling on the spring. In a SOA application it's worse, which is why a ladder bar is usually needed. Bouncing sucks, and at the end of the day, getting up the obstacle while burning a third less calories is what it's all about.

That's what many have observed, including myself, and I was a big proponent of SR. Maybe by staying SUA it'll work better for you.
YMMV.

btw, looks good so far, nice progress!

 

[mbryson]

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I'm not a shackle reversal fan and have the shackle forward setup. My Jeep does climb well for it's wheelbase. I have no idea why, but wonder if it does have something to do with the shackle fwd.

 

[markegbert]

you two might be right, but i am done with the shackle reversal so i will see if i like it and if not i can just change it down the road. you might be right about the spring under making it better so hope it work well.

 

[mbryson]

you two might be right, but i am done with the shackle reversal so i will see if i like it and if not i can just change it down the road. you might be right about the spring under making it better so hope it work well.

Definitely worth a shot. I'm genuinely curious what kind of difference it would make.

 

[Matt]

Updates?

 

[markegbert]

did a little work this weekend, moved all the spring perches for more wheel base and to correct my shackle angle front and rear. also moved my front hanger up 1.5 inches for better clearance. everything is still tact welded in just in case i want/need to chance something. with stock yj frame, front and rear leafs, and on frame extensions i ended up with 113 inch wheel base, not bad.

 

[Matt]

looking good! updates?

 

[1995zj]

Pssh....Mark is down in Moab right now.....how lame is that?! (not with this though as far as I know)